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Mizarak
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I do not now if this has been stated before but the pvp system i think needs an over haul. For one i think we need to make it where you can also get BR from winning matches on pvp islands as this would make it easier to fight someone since you have to claim lands to get your daily tribute. I say this because i think that many people including myself are getting very frustrated with the system and having to rely on the DG button to always pair us up just so we can get BR. If this was changed over i think we could see a drastic increase in growth of BR as well as it would add a new spin on how the pvp islands would be played. Maybe we can keep DG in for those who do not always want to fight on the same island(s). Change can be good so long as you are never caught up in trying to keep things constantly changing.
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Before the DG was introduced (era 4? 5? dunno) you got BR from islands ... but there wasn't more pvp then now as far as i know.
People welcomed the dg because it seemed like that would increase the amount of pvp.

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Brandt
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there were to much noob bashing back when it all was on islands, that's why we have the system we do now

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Yes I agree, there was too much noob bashing going on in the islands for it to continue so the dev's came up with the dueling grounds system, Think it was er 4 Stra but not 100% sure, not even 80% sure actually.

You will notice in the ladders that from era 1-4 the 1st, 2nd,3rd medal hoggers have MUCH more medals than the 1st,2nd and 3rd medal hoggers from era 5-8 do, this because of the dueling grounds system.


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Mizarak
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Well several people are and have been complaining about how glitchy and bad DG really is Look i duno if it needs to go but why take out BR from the island all together? If there is a rule where you can only attack someone so many time i mean who gets off on always playing the same char with the same units and gear?
Sunnydale
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Mizarak wrote:Well several people are and have been complaining about how glitchy and bad DG really is Look i duno if it needs to go but why take out BR from the island all together? If there is a rule where you can only attack someone so many time i mean who gets off on always playing the same char with the same units and gear?


Let's be honest shall we? people that own someone without a chance of losing love to play them over and over... it is really the only thing most seem to like ... heaven forbid they fight people their level/skill cause that would be a challenge.. I personally feel the current system on the islands is a bit crazy... a lvl 5 fighting a lvl 5 but the DL is insanely geared and can walk all over the other players entire team without having to spawn a single unit other than the dl? why doesn't the dl armor count toward your pvp rating? neither does the gear your units are currently wearing? so basically if you keep your research low and your gear max and your DL maxed you can own everyone that even thinks about trying to compete... to me this is what needs to be balanced I don't pvp at all right now cause this is my first era which makes my dl have 4k hp and the enemy dl 17k or so ... just not even a small chance of winning that fight.
Asharai
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Except early era, DL doesn't make such a huge difference in PvP.

With my 0 era alt account I managed to get over 60BR without too much trouble at end of pvp feast. It's mostly a matter of sacrifying research and tribute so that you can get the awesome gears from altar, 50 people in army and full workers in Temple Of Conquest. Dreamlord and strategy is rather secondary then.

It probably wouldn't be a good idea to compute the pvp level based on gears you are wearing. It's frutrating but that would be too much abusable: just ungear your dreamlord to increase/decrease your PvP level at will.

What counts (for units) is the max gear value, which is rather annoying since I often fight with no gears at all while I can wear up to value 120 gears. So I basically just grant higher value trophies to other players while I don't get any benefit for that in the fight...
Still current situation seems rather good for me. I'm definitely against putting more importance (BR or better rewards) in island fights, PvP level can easily be manipulated, especially by old players...

A few eras ago, people stayed at low levels for ages to bash noobs on purpose. This is still happening a bit, especially early era but not that much.

Just keep in mind that most fights you will play will be rather one-sided, but in the middle you can get a few enjoyable ones

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Mizarak
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Not to mention, if i didn't say it before there are people who are abusing DG on a regular basis and i know of a couple that use it to screw the other person from getting the BR they are supposed to get because the other person basically just lost the fight. They know they will lose BR but they don't want the other person to gain it.
Kinimaro
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Uhm ash u dont have to get to value of 120. Just get a good weaver and the value for the same equip is much much lower.

And about the tatctic in dl i dont have any good equip right now and i never was over the corruptor stuff,most time i wear the cv quest equipment and i can still own some ppl with a rly good tactic even if there are serveral lvs above me. If u got more experienced ( for me it takes one era of hardcore pvp with constant loosing till i find my way for pvp ing =D) it gets easier for u to beat more.
Asharai
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My comment on value 120 is just because I often PvP without any gears when feast is over.
I have the research done to wear gears of lvl120, which probably adds a few pvp levels on my character. But since I pvp without gears, this research doesn't help me at all on the field and just gives better rewards to my opponents.

A few things are helping for the victory that aren't counted in PvP level, such as army size. And others are counted in PvP level while they don't bring much of an advantage, such as castle healing and high tier units.

I just won a few DG fights with my pvp level 9 alt against level 20 + players and even a level 30. I wouldn't say it was easy fights but opponents didn't make huge mistakes. I had no gears and only t1 units but this 0 era account is quite focused on PvP-ing and just outswarming opponent works on some maps with many locations. As for tactics, it doesn't count that much after you have at least played a few fights. Most fights are pretty straightforward depending on your TP income/gear and opponents'.

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